Shocker: New homes occupied by real people

This post is 4 years old. The data and my views may have since evolved.

There’s often push back on new construction when it comes to the community input part of the process.  Some people simply don’t like change, but others that are in favour of more supply protest that the new supply being proposed is too expensive and thus not addressing the issue of affordable housing.  By virtue of it being new and construction costs being what they are, new construction does tend to be on the expensive side, so it is on the surface a reasonable objection.   However this weekend I saw a tweet that went as far as to say (emphasis mine) “There is no point to housing construction in Metro Vancouver. It’s almost all unaffordable & it’s being sold overseas where the market price gets set.”

Of course it’s a ridiculous statement, but luckily Nathanael Lauster from the Home Free Sociology blog crunched the numbers to prove that it is.   Looking at the occupants of new housing, approximately 85% of new owners moved from within the city, metro area, or BC.   In other words, the people buying these new homes are mostly local families.   This is data from 2011 so somewhat out of date (and not available for Victoria specifically), but if anything direct foreign buyers would have dropped further after the introduction of the foreign buyers tax.

Yes the buyers of those properties in general have higher incomes, so it’s true that the new construction is unlikely to be affordable for the majority of residents.   However if people are moving from within the area, they are vacating other housing (likely cheaper), and opening it up to those with less means, who in turn open up their housing.   In the end the new supply filters down.   Certainly we can be sure that if the supply didn’t exist at all, those buyers that have the means to buy a new home would remain in competition for all the remaining housing, crowding out those with lesser means and forcing prices up faster.  It’s certainly important to ensure that new supply goes to where we want it to go (housing people), but I think it’s clear the new construction does help with affordable housing.  The simple observation that prices are up despite new construction does not disprove that point.   Read the details on Nathanael’s blog.

Also here are the weekly numbers courtesy of the VREB.  Last December 10th we had 129 sales, so the month is starting slow with sales per business day down 19%.  However that means almost nothing in the first week, so we’ll have to see how it plays out for the rest of the month.    I have noticed some particularly wild swings in sales month to month recently.   Condo sales went gangbusters in September before dropping right back down, while single family was on a tear last month.  Will it drop back in December?  It’s clear that substantial demand has returned after the introduction of the stress test, but somehow it doesn’t feel all that stable yet.

December 2019
Dec
2018
Wk 1 Wk 2 Wk 3 Wk 4
Sales 104 375
New Listings 135 384
Active Listings 2259 1988
Sales to New Listings 77% 98%
Sales Projection
Months of Inventory 5.3
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Patrick
Patrick
December 11, 2019 8:47 pm

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RB
RB
December 11, 2019 1:20 pm

Greeting from Vancouver. I would take much of what Nathanael Lauster says with a grain of tainted salt.

He’s accused those concerned with dirty foreign money, and the marketing of housing offshore, as being racist. He testified in favour of scrapping the foreign buyer tax while he sold his place for double the valuation to China money lobbyists.

There is a serious problem with compromised academics, politicians, and bureaucrats in this province and country pissing on our legs and telling us to buy umbrellas.

I’ll wait to see what folks like Andy Yan @ SFU have to say about Lauster’s musings before coming to any conclusions.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2181447/professor-says-vancouvers-china-money-fears-mirror

Garden Suitor
Garden Suitor
December 11, 2019 9:33 am

Vacant home tax won’t apply to cabins accessible only by water

I wonder what the exact definition of this will be. Most any place is accessible by air if you have a helicopter.

Saltspring has a heliport and a water aerodrome. Would that count as accessible by air? Would the ferry count as strictly accessible by water in this definition since it can carry your car?

rush4life
rush4life
December 10, 2019 7:24 pm

https://www.goldstreamgazette.com/business/strata-rental-bans-escape-b-c-speculation-tax-through-2021-carole-james-says/

“Strata rental bans escape B.C. speculation tax through 2021, Carole James says
Vacant home tax won’t apply to cabins accessible only by water

The B.C. government is changing exemptions to its speculation and empty home tax in urban areas, as it prepares to quadruple the rate charged for foreign owners and “satellite families” who don’t pay Canadian income tax.

Finance Minister Carole James announced Tuesday that the speculation tax exemption for strata properties where rentals are banned will end on Dec. 31, 2021. That date is after the next scheduled B.C. election, and the B.C. Liberal opposition has opposed the NDP speculation tax as a method to force property owners to rent out homes that are vacant six months or more per year.

Also to be phased out at the end of 2021 is an exemption for strata accommodation properties, or strata hotels, units kept in some condo buildings for tenants to rent out to visitors. An exemption for vacant land ends after this year, meaning it won’t apply to property tax bills until 2021.

The speculation tax was introduced in 2018, with both the rates and the areas of application altered after protests from owners and the B.C. Green Party. For Canadian owners, it now applies at an annual rate of 0.5 per cent of the assessed value of the property every year on secondary homes. For the 2019 assessment year, the tax rises to 2.0 per cent for foreign owners and satellite families, payable on 2020 property taxes.”

So what happens with the buildings that don’t allow rental – is it suspected that they will be changing their strata rules or not likely?

elouai
elouai
December 10, 2019 12:49 pm

As opposed to anecdotal evidence, was there ever a graph done to compare listings sold price vs assessment value? Hopefully in different the brackets (condo, single family, duplex, etc, as well as under and over $1 million homes)

Patrick
Patrick
December 10, 2019 11:36 am

Also luxury market is weakest, so no surprise that Oak Bay which is mostly luxury is weaker than areas with more entry level homes.

Yes, and this quiet time of year is probably the best time to get a “good deal” – must be some folks eager to sell.

Patrick
Patrick
December 10, 2019 11:29 am

Median Sale price vs Assessment, detached, Oak Bay
April->June: 1% over assessment
July->Sept: 9% under assessment
October->November: 8% under assessment.

Small number of sales of detached Oak Bay homes – 15 per month – volatility not surprising. That’s about 2% of Greater Victoria home sales (which don’t show similar results).

Overall – Greater Victoria SFH and condo HPI benchmark flat for last 6 months
(page 6 https://www.vreb.org/pdf/VREBNewsReleaseFull.pdf )

Oak Bay sale prices in fall may reflect an odd mix of “leftover” houses that were assessed too high to begin with.

Cadborosaurus
Cadborosaurus
December 10, 2019 10:48 am

more shockers coming… I can’t wait to see what the listings will say now that assessment values are going down. “Priced at / near assessment vs. way over!” Oh wow what a deal.

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/greater-victoria-home-assessments-to-fall-up-to-10-1.24031491

Ash
Ash
December 9, 2019 10:36 pm

1285 Monterey Ave is another one.
Assessed 1.4M, listed 1.2M, sold 1.05M. Not bad value in my opinion.

Barrister
Barrister
December 9, 2019 2:38 pm

Looked at two new homes in Oak Bay and the asking price seemed rather over the top for either one of them. I will be curious to see if they bring anywhere close to asking.